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Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #10: Listening to specific case is precisely my point, typology be damned by Joe Roberts on 2009-01-15 
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Cat:First off, the Silbatone Aporia is $30k/pr not 100k. You could do 6 speaker surround with Aporia for well under $100k. Hope you feel better now."So what," I say. $30k is already too much for my pocket. I am on a fellowship this year and cheapskat...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #20: Manger test CD!!! by ArmAlex on 2019-02-02 
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Josch actually I red your previous posts a couple of times to find out your point about the sound you heard, as haven't had the chance to experience Romy's system. Of course I couldn't understand you completely. Anyhow after seeing what CD you brough...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #26: Manger CD by Newtohorn on 2019-03-27 
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Just got to catch up with this post and I just had to laugh at the Sissy Groupie comment =)Reminds me of the Manger Test CD.  Once I visited an audio buddy with a new system, the music played was from this very Manger Test CD.  I got the CD home basi...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #26: Manger and solid state by el`Ol on 2010-05-19 
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[quote user="Joe Roberts"]At Munich, we cranked the Aporias up with a 20w 845 SE and they did not catch on fire but our goal for the speaker is "big horn sound in normal sized rooms"--and 8W will do that.[/quote]The Manger catches on fire with some m...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #15: Any noise from the Manger Orchestra? by Romy the Cat on 2010-05-17 
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Mani, BTW, if Silbatone-pimping Joe Roberts showed up in here then it had to be the Aporia speakers with the  back-loaded single Manger were presented in the show. Why would Silbatone otherwise to drag to the show that  big and expensive mastodon...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #5: Manger dirver in a horn! by drdna on 2009-01-13 
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[quote user="Joe Roberts"]The Manger is very different from Lowthers and other paper fullranges. It is very balanced and not peaky at all. Lowthers are lots of fun to experiment with but it seems the Manger is less idiosyncratic sonically, although i...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #32: Manger active plus horn by el`Ol on 2009-01-23 
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I once visited a Manger addict who had an active system with Mangers and corner horns (equipped with four eightinchers, not heavy pro stuff). I found the Mangers and the horns very well-matching, and one should be glad about every Watt...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #28: Back is part of the front (the back part) by Joe Roberts on 2009-01-23 
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Interesting concept but let me point out a few considerations.The diffusor does performs a mild "equalization" function if you want to call it that but it is also an aid to dispersion. It is light "EQ"...3dB might be about right. Without any diffusor...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #2: Nobody can avoid the trap of language by Joe Roberts on 2009-01-13 
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As the writer of the above-referenced propaganda, I am pleased to once again tweak the whiskers of the cat. First off, this is promotional material so what the heck do you expect? Every brochure offers a new benchmark in performance or it is not doi...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #13: “Why do I need all those technical manuals?” - Amuse to Death by Roge... by Romy the Cat on 2009-01-15 
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Joe, I personally very much disagree with my own comment that for two people objectively assess a speaker would be possible ONLY with two parties are sitting in the same room and listening to the same installation. I did propose it as a “remedy” in ...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #12: I knew you'd agree by Joe Roberts on 2009-01-15 
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Glad you came around to my way of thinking. Without actually hearing "X" it is kind of silly to have strong and well formed opinions about X's sound.If "Lowther" is used as a generic name for single driver speaker, then it is impossible to have a mea...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #14: Not a hush hush secret or smoke and mirrors by Joe Roberts on 2009-01-15 
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Quickly again, for the record, and The Google:The back wave of the Manger has a much less flat response than the front wave. There are peaks out the back.  It is not a symmetrical dipole. This issue is only of interest if you are using the back ...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #29: The West-Silba LochTone Ness Manga-Electric? by Romy the Cat on 2009-01-23 
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[quote user="Joe Roberts"] Interesting concept but let me point out a few considerations. The diffusor does performs a mild "equalization" function if you want to call it that but it is also an aid to dispersion. It is light "EQ"...3dB might be abou...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #26: Manger and solid state by el`Ol on 2010-05-19 
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[quote user="Joe Roberts"]At Munich, we cranked the Aporias up with a 20w 845 SE and they did not catch on fire but our goal for the speaker is "big horn sound in normal sized rooms"--and 8W will do that.[/quote]The Manger catches on fire with some m...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #11: Terminations by be on 2008-04-17 
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The Enable patterns are efficient on a loudspeaker membrane because there is a strong structural coupling of the transversal sound waves in the membrane it self and the additional mass and damping of the spots.In this case the situation is different,...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #104: Silbatone and WE in Germany or hi-fi barter. by Romy the Cat on 2010-09-06 
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Joe Roberts continues do not do audio and coniine dedicate himself to archeology. http://www.tnt-audio.com/shows/munich10a_e.htmlDuring his last waist of Munich, when he was digging out the meaning of the word “Reinheitsgebot” and helpe to his Korean...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #26: Manger CD by Newtohorn on 2019-03-27 
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Just got to catch up with this post and I just had to laugh at the Sissy Groupie comment =)Reminds me of the Manger Test CD.  Once I visited an audio buddy with a new system, the music played was from this very Manger Test CD.  I got the CD home basi...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #4: If to bring our possibility to the level of our capacity…. by Romy the Cat on 2009-01-13 
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Joe, The “decoration” you described came from the fact that you wrote your message on MS Word that adds ugly formatting when you paste it into native HTML editors. I also write in Word and I uselessly before I unload my posts I paste my Word’s text ...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #20: Mangerhorn by moreart on 2010-05-18 
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Hello,i constructed a Mangerhorn 1984,manger bought the lizence 1994what i don´t understand by silbatone Manger hornNO measurement, No IMPData:• 8 ohm, 93 dB/1W, Max. SPL - 120dbi never get more than 95 dB max.and 1W1m 90 dBand the lense IMHO...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #5: Manger dirver in a horn! by drdna on 2009-01-13 
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[quote user="Joe Roberts"]The Manger is very different from Lowthers and other paper fullranges. It is very balanced and not peaky at all. Lowthers are lots of fun to experiment with but it seems the Manger is less idiosyncratic sonically, although i...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #60: Daddy Cat and Baby Cat by Joe Roberts on 2009-01-25 
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[QUOTE] Joe Roberts wrote: Did you actually read 1980s TAS or just thought sniff it? I think I know the answer. Nope, I did not. I arrived in US in 1992, spoke no English and was able to read cognitively after 1994-95. [/Quote]Well check it ou...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #6: Its all relative by Joe Roberts on 2009-01-13 
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At CES there were Viagra-junkie sized power cords everywhere for $5000. Around our room were $10k and $20k speakers that sounded like a wet jukebox. It was the land of delusion.Value per topology is one way to measure but let's instead start with a p...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #50: Correction on above post by Joe Roberts on 2009-01-24 
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[QUOTE]Tone in language is entirely different from tone in language.[/QUOTE]OOPS... should read "Tone in language is entirely different from tone in music."Where's the edit button on this thing?....-----------------------------On single drivers and p...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #62: Ok, it is the time… by Romy the Cat on 2009-01-25 
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Joe, Funny that imaging has very little to do what I think you do not “get”. Apparently my run about imaging was the only thing you “got” but I brought the whole “imaging thig” only as one of the illustrations. It is kind of sad that the keyword “im...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #8: The prison of language and the lie in the symbol by Joe Roberts on 2009-01-14 
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I would agree that the Lowther is not hard to beat but the question is where and in whose mind does this competition exist? Is the Lowther, Manger, or other full range single driver in competition with different multi-driver approaches, other single ...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #57: Was the Lucy from Ethiopian a first Silbatone listener? by Romy the Cat on 2009-01-25 
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[quote user="Joe Roberts"] What makes any particular goal higher, beyond the goal-owners high opinon of himself, his own preferences, and his listening acumen? [/quote] A valid comment, I have nothing against it. There is however “lower goals”, or t...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #5: DACT et alia by Gregm on 2006-05-31 
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I am somewhat familiar with the dact: I used it in non controlled manner but familiar environment; it was assembled by someone else who also provided the necessary power supply; it was in two chassis about 15x15x~30 cm each (one for ps), so the equal...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #23: At every SPL by Amir on 2023-06-19 
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[quote user="Paul S"]It seems like many speakers that might be acceptabe at low to mid volume with simple music begin to compress and otherwise screw up when "pushed", either dynamically or with more complex music. Of course, plenty of people really ...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #11: Silbatone and polish horn. by Romy the Cat on 2012-05-06 
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[quote user="Stitch"] Well, I didn't come so close to answer your question right.I saw a few from the German DIY scenery and for them it was like the return of Jesus, best sound on Planet But probably they are still deaf as usual, because the Fre...

Read the Post in new Window Read the Post in Threaded view  Post #17: Ok goodbye by martinshorn on 2019-02-02 
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Footnote for the record: evaluation music of the guest was the famous Manger Test CDhttp://tempuri.org/tempuri.html...
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