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                        [quote user="Gregm"]Actually, that could be a viable commercial product: a "stereo am"p allowing for four channels. One hi side, one low side, per channel.Any moron purchasing this could be stratosphrically happy flabbergasting his pals by "passively...
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                        [quote user="drdna"] The altered topology of DSET has the potential to have disadvantages.  There is increased overall system complexity and this often seems to be a negative.  Beyond this, it is difficult to expound, for me, on the specifi...
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                        [quote user="drdna"] You are correct, though I believe the subwoofer covers only below 40 hz. [/quote] So??? [quote user="drdna"] This is coming from the same person who has built a 6-channel DSET? Anyway, it was more a thought about optimizing the o...
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                        [quote user="drdna"] The altered topology of DSET has the potential to have disadvantages.  There is increased overall system complexity and this often seems to be a negative.  Beyond this, it is difficult to expound, for me, on the specifi...
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                        [quote user="decoud"]I know you do not want to do it, but it is a shame not to do it: actually manufacture a version of the Macondo with an integrated dset, cut down enough (say three channels) to make it feasible while still demonstrating the advant...
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                        [quote user="Romy the Cat"]The result [in the 6-channel Milq] is definably better but the reason-consequences patterns are not so easily interpretable, and are absolutely not interpretable when the filters are applied.[/quote] And the explorations th...
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                        [quote user="Romy the Cat"]The result [in the 6-channel Milq] is definably better but the reason-consequences patterns are not so easily interpretable, and are absolutely not interpretable when the filters are applied.[/quote] And the explorations th...
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                        Yes, to “voice” the DSET is tricky and requires a lot of listening experience, or more accurately saying – it requires to make a lot of mistakes and understand own mistakes. It is not difficult –juts require patience. Still, if one “get” how DSET sou...
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                        [quote user="Romy the Cat"] 
Here are the basics of the 6-Chennal Melquiades DSET Amplifier complete, without secondary features.http://www.RomyTheCat.com/PDF/6-Chennal_Melquiades_DSET_Amplifier.pdf[/quote] The pre-final version of the 6-Ch Melquiad...
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                        [quote user="Romy the Cat"]However, you need to find out how much power and how much gain you need for you subs and your room. Borrow for someone any 6C33C and measure how far the 6C33C will be from class A2 at a level of max tolerable bass in your r...
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		In this thread I would like to talk a bit about the practice in DSET driven multi-way horns configuration.
		I have expressed my view that the architectural configuration that Macondo and Super Melquiades end up to be I find is the most interest...
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                        You can build DSET for anything. DSET concept does not imply any topology but recognition of purpose and accommodation of a topology for the purpose. Generally the 93dB sensitivity is not something that I would attack with SET, unless you use SET aro...
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                        The Bass OPT's for my DSET have been wound.  We have come back to a 1000R plate loading and into 1R the 6C33C grid clips at 9.36W and 5.8% distortion.  The -0.5dB points at full power are 5.9Hz and 5kHz.A nice result really, and about where I thought...
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                        To keep with Romy's spirit of sharing his work, I have attached a file of VER 1.0 of the DSET Power Supply.  There are quite a few differences to Romy's published schematics but it is basically the same beast.  You will notice a lot of power transfor...
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                        My DSET amplifiers are starting to go together (slowly).Bias string and bleeder relays/resistors...The remainder of the filter caps.  The middle floor goes on and the filter cap for the First Stages (6E5P/6E6P).Then the OPT's go in place and the shel...
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                        Hi Romy,What a busy year just gone!  Finding enough time to just sit down and get the DSET's going has been impossible, but I have time now and have started the process.At the moment I am introducing some high voltage to the first amplifier chassis, ...
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                        Stitch, even though you are not wrong what you say but I do
not think it has a direct relation to what I call the "worse". My angle
was different: the demise of SET concept if the amp increases some rational cost
level. The cost of LAMM electronic...
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                        ...seems to me finacio-emotional not technical. The Macondo and 9 channel Melquiades are really one device, essentially an active speaker. If a maker did not feel obliged to put the amp and the speaker in different boxes he would obviously optimise t...
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                        I already have some PY500 (it's a sign =))) ) and I have 836 too.I read about Malquiade amplifier threads.So it seem peoples on this forum like horn speakers (I love them too) and are looking for fast transient response, it's exactly what I like.But ...
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		This post is a logical continuation of the post: My “radar of sensations” about the “good honk”:
		
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                        Still partially wrapt in mystery, but here is potentially the first SS DSET:http://www.firstwatt.com/sit1.htmlI say potentially for that is not naturally Pass's direction, but each monobloc is designed to be tunable to its specific speaker....
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                        The 1933 articale in Radio-Craft by W.H. Hollister about DSET systemhttp://www.goodsoundclub.com/pdf/BiAmpArticle_1933.pdfThe Cat...
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                        [quote user="decoud"] Romy, can you be persuaded to post a sketch of what you think the optimal 2 channel Melquiades circuit would look like? [/quote]
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                        For whatever stupid reasons the DSETs (Dedicated Single Ended Amplifier) are not as popular among audio people as they SHOULD be and this imperfection I am trying to attack. 
So, if you use SET for whoever propose then it fine but if you e...
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                        [quote user="Merlin"]... my own feeling is that David Berning's solution is both neater and more practical - the only impediment ot it's acceptance, the dogmatic approach of many thermionic die hards. My experience suggests it's their loss. [/quote] ...
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                        [quote user="Romy the Cat"]I am sorry; I do not follow what you are saing. I see no relation between a need to use a crossover with DSET topology. The Cat[/quote]What I am thinking is that with full range amplifier, you must use a speaker level cross...
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                        Wow, I mean really, really, really, really, really WOW!
A week ago I converted one of the Super Milqs to 5:1 loading and yesterday I converted another one. I loved what the last week converted amp did. It was very nice but today I put the entire sys...
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