martinshorn wrote:

I expected your disappointed resonance already. What you write completes the impression of the evening. I didn't go that far not to blow up the mini article unnecessarily. But be honest, you knew it all before. And so it happened... And I believe deep inside you remembered yourself back in the days when you were searching, the moment you responded to my "self-invitation".

martinshorn wrote:

The 90% of wrong audio people  I feel you mean 90% of people have different objective than you. Which makes them wrong. Its not particularly modest buddhistic approach of thinking. Lets say two are talking how nice it is to drive out on the weekend for a road trip. Both agree but mean totally different things. Person A loves to drive technically coz his car is tuned to perfection. Second person meant he reaches destination to enjoy food and meet new people. I feel the same in the audio scene. You can either enjoy the music itself or enjoy the sound-bathing. Sound-bathing is by far more common between audiophiles, and listening to well recorded but meaningless music. Both is OK. If I enjoy to jiggle my senses with sound effects, no one gets hurt. Sound-bathing is totally fine. Only the abuse to justify consumptionism is bad about it. This is what many are guilty of. As for the actual music, honestly i came along the conclusion years ago that even the radio in my car is good enough to stop there. Thats because it transmits the emotion of music to the max extend I expect. Which leads to the next point

martinshorn wrote:

Only classical music is actually music. I am familiar with this thinking since childhood. My grandpa is a classic snob too. He is hobby pianist and Chopin obsessed since his teenage. He would always argue that what i listen to is more similar to African bush rituals than music. I mean we are both familiar in Germany and America with people of younger past calling jazz music barbarian....... The truth is, while my grandpa may felt superior about enjoying his complexity, he never had a chance to enjoy singing out loud with Howlin Wolf under the shower. Or with Jimi Hendrix in the car with open window. Neither he was dancing to techno with his friends in a secret industrial nightclub till 8 o'clock in the morning. Nor did he date many girls on the salsa dancing courses in that cuban bar downtown. I don't know which of us both had more life-fulfilment, but I sure do have assumptions.

martinshorn wrote:

That his handing over to the point when I say that any level of quality above shitty car radio does actually already not matter to me. When I sing horribly bad to Curtis Mayfield or Charles Bradley in the car (and my Lady notices she doesn't have enough hands to cover her face and ears at the same time) the sound quality doesn't matter at all. This is when I truly listen. And I feel fulfilment of music. And I know that for long. It has little to do with audio sound bathing. Maybe you find this your way with understanding the real power of classical music and the individual personality and art of each interpretation. And it may be what you try to articulate. My way may lack complexity. But I feel i don't need to proof to anyone my grandeur. Instead i feel this genre has a lot of its own bohemian charm, which is composed after 5 beer and heartache, instead of 2 dices thrown on a matrix.

martinshorn wrote:

Bitching about the Macondo in the enemy forum. I had little notice of you being banned nor does it have any relevance. It is simply the biggest platform reaching out to people. And that was the idea, it actually was a pure socialistic idea. I do not feel this forum here would be a platform to communicate this.  As you pointed: most people are the same. I find this shockingly often to be true in life. This is where I agree with 90%  A lot of people want to hear your system. People were asking how does it sound, was anyone ever there? I was googling it, no results. Many sure did. I wanted to let them know. And its better to share experience rather than keeping it secretly within a small snobby highend society. I was lucky to be nearby and you making time. Thanks!

martinshorn wrote:

If you create something, and say someone else's creation is shit, you actually also say yours is better. If you say everyone is shit, you imply the statement of your own superiority. You do say a lot how shitty others are. That certainly triggers huge curiosity around the globe. Look how the S2 prices exploded to unreasonable height. You and Kevin made a lot of fuss about it.

martinshorn wrote:

So I wanted to speak to people and address that. I really think it is a great thing to do. Though it may hurt your feelings. Sorry for that. See it as contribution to something bigger. It hopefully releases some tension of curious audio people how the mystical Macondo may sing. Like when you welcomed me. That relief was great gift! Happy to share it.

Romy the Cat wrote:

martinshorn wrote: I expected your disappointed resonance already. What you write completes the impression of the evening. I didn't go that far not to blow up the mini article unnecessarily. But be honest, you knew it all before. And so it happened... And I believe deep inside you remembered yourself back in the days when you were searching, the moment you responded to my "self-invitation".  Josh, I have no disappointing in here of any kind with exception that I wish you do not post at the forums where the typical idiots dump dirt on me and I have no means to response. In fact I am very pleased with your visit as in my view Macondo demonstrate a very high performing integrity. You mentioned that you were surprised that Macondo sounded like a regular speaker, you were not moves, astonished, surprised, flabbergasted or experienced any other emotional shock that you typically expect to get from a playback. This is the highest compliment I even got for Macondo. This is the ultimate expressive transparency of playback, the transparency that you unfortunately do not understand yet. Macodno did present you with auditable surrogate that in your mind you recognize as a definition of “quality”. You did not understand the music was played and you experienced no invents for your soul. When you played your surrogate Macondo did not ornament it with your expected sonic goodness, so you pass through the Macondo presentation like a hot knife there the butter and hear only a boring regular speaker. There are very few speakers out there that can do it for you and Macondo is one of them. Also, I think Macondo did spectacular job to suggest you do not look for “progressed” solution and to settle down for something more modest. I think it was a good education at good time for you and I do glad that you come to this realization.

mats wrote:

I’d like to pick up on one thing the visitor noted.  He said Macondo was able to “dissect” the most “complex and dramatic” Bruckner.  To me, this is a stunning achievement. In my humble attempts at resolving the most  complex passages, all successs has translated into improved sound in less demanding music.

Hi Romy

I cant help but not keeping back the smile

Come on Romy, we are grown ups, you can not be so angry only because you I don't like your speaker.

It is important to stay open towards the outside world and get inspired by new input.

Stay hungry.

Like JMMLC said, you need to re-evalute what you, go out and compare. 

Otherwise you tweak forever only at home on your own system.

By that you loose the relation, your ear gets used to your coloration. 

And you end up compensating within your chain each others components.

Like the Tubes softness try to compensate the S2 harshness.

Or the Tannoy and Ribbon try to compensate your odd dispersion.

At the end when you stay forever home and tweak for 20 years, there's only Frankenstein coming out of it.

I had that once and i listened so much to colored horns that all others sounded colored to me.

You cure that by listening to more natural performance and compare with other speakers.

And its not enough having it done 30 years ago. It keeps coming back. So you need to keep moving.

That was one of the reasons for me (also being a copy cat) being interested in a visit.

I highly recommend! It opens you more to the reality instead of encapsulating yourself far off the grid in the countryhouse deeper into own reality neglecting. Because I feel this is what is happening whenever someone sais everyone else is different.

You tend to turn things upside-down to your liking but must gain back the birds-eye view on where you stand.

Otherwise you twist yourself into contradictions. There are many examples:

You ask me if I am upset, but you say it is unethical to post elsewhere about Macondo.

You insist in the accuracy of you not inviting me but I invited myself - when elsewhere my comment to you "Macondo lacks lows, its way too lean" gets reworded by you into "he said there was no chest pressure".

When I visited, you say i would be an exception coz you normally do not allow audio people anymore. But now as I didn't like it, just the other day someone was there who liked it very much... 

Back 10 years ago when you heard about Kevin using S2, your first reaction was he is probably trying to copy Romy. Which is funny because he has been using it for 30 years.

Back when ESD horn showed up, you say that ESD lacks good taste to make horns red. They are not modest. And that modest people would color horns black. Which is funny looking at your horns and the contradictory explanation of modesty

When I say I dont like Macondo sound, you say I have inability for evaluation.

When I say Macondo lacks correct tonality, you offer me to press the loudness and bass boost button.

When I refuse to spontaneously detune your setup on potentiometer to my liking within the little time i have to listen at all, you say I am missing my opportunities to discover.

When I mention the unpleasant harshness, you say this was also intentional forwardness by you making the response uneven.

When I say I was not impressed by the sound, you say this is the biggest compliment because that was actually the plan. Which I dont buy sorry, why would you burn 6 figure money for 10 years voicing to be ordinary.

Or when you say you exhausted the energy youre willing to waste on me, but you keep coming back. Like when that "someone pointed to you" the diyaudio threat

And after you realise I do not give you the validation for your playback, you claim that you were actually just playing games with me to giggle, snigger and titter behind my back. That is actually the not funny but rather sad statement already.

cheers

Josh

rowuk wrote:

There are so many things that pop into mind when reading this thread - the "expectations" of a visitor, Roman knowing before the guest is even there what the outcome will be and then for both sides "proof". Yes, anyone who even has heard of Macondo and Mequiades certainly have more than enough documentation about what can be expected. Romy's law of relativity: bad music/recordings sound proportionally worse depending on playback quality. On the other hand, even Romys wife Amy knew what the outcome was going to be. I can imagine the pleasure of keeping smiles and comments to yourself.

martinshorn wrote:

I cant help but not keeping back the smile

Josh, although I think you should have posted your “report” here, yet I wish you well, and I hope you find what you are looking/listening for so fervently.  I always feel sympathy for young people who have so much energy and the material resources to put together a nice system for themselves but, while they earnestly believe they are “right there”, so close to success (at any given time), it is obvious they are either years away or they will, after all the searching, settle for something mostly because they ran out of patience, drive, resources, or imagination, or they simply “cashed in their chips” for a system someone else agreed was “the best” in a last ditch attempt to “return to normal”.  I do not need to hear Romy’s system in person to know that he has created a portal to what he hears and can actually describe in the great Music he listens to.  When you get this far along, if you are still interested in talking about it, I hope you will check back and share your experience.>>

Best regards,

Paul S