This weekend I discover interesting phenomena on which I did not pay attention before. The Montrealian Charles Dutoit conducted this weekend Boston symphony. I was listening the broadcast, recording it as usually. It was very bad. The BSO wind section butchered everything they could, particularly brasses that played 6 wrong notes out of any 10 notes. It might sound like a high-school Budweiser-loaded fun ….if it would not be coming for the most paid orchestra in US! Damn, it WAS disgusting! When they opened up with Rimsky-Korsakov Easter Overture I took for me a few seconds to figure out if they stat already to play or if they still keep tuning the orchestra…

Anyhow, after the broadcast I was doing something and ended up with Tannoy Reds connected. Since the Lavry was warmed I started to play the opened file off my hard drive with the Dutoit/BSO. In few minutes I realized that off-the pitch playing the BSO’s horns and trumpets did not bother me so much. I stopped the player and listen it again this time carefully. Sure, all wrong notes were there but total listening was near tolerable… I began to wonder….

The only difference between my initials very negative listening experience an my following tolerable experience was that first was “live” but second was off my DAW  in 24/88. Also, the different was that the first I was listening Macondo (driven by Super Milq) and the second on Tannoy Reds (driven by full-range Milqs). I turned on the Super Milq, warmed it up and played the same file. Now, the “tolerable” effect went away and each single wrong note begun to scream about itself with the force of a thermonuclear exposure. A switched it back to the Reds and all wrong notes sunk into a smooth Tannoyness. Sure, they were still the wrong notes but they kind of did not bother me…

Interesting observations… I wonder what Macondo does that wrong pitches so much stick out the whole sound? Both speakers are driven with the same amps. So, what would it be? The drivers? The horns topology? The crossovers? Go figure..

Also, if Reds could make wrong notes do not bother listener’s awareness then can I make a speaker that would make my own barbarically-Moronic play to qualify as a nominee for the Chopin Piano Competition?

Romy the Cat wrote:

This weekend I discover interesting phenomena on which I did not pay attention before. The Montrealian Charles Dutoit conducted this weekend Boston symphony. I was listening the broadcast, recording it as usually. It was very bad. The BSO wind section butchered everything they could, particularly brasses that played 6 wrong notes out of any 10 notes. It might sound like a high-school Budweiser-loaded fun ….if it would not be coming for the most paid orchestra in US! Damn, it WAS disgusting! When they opened up with Rimsky-Korsakov Easter Overture I took for me a few seconds to figure out if they stat already to play or if they still keep tuning the orchestra… Anyhow, after the broadcast I was doing something and ended up with Tannoy Reds connected. Since the Lavry was warmed I started to play the opened file off my hard drive with the Dutoit/BSO. In few minutes I realized that off-the pitch playing the BSO’s horns and trumpets did not bother me so much. I stopped the player and listen it again this time carefully. Sure, all wrong notes were there but total listening was near tolerable… I began to wonder…. The only difference between my initials very negative listening experience an my following tolerable experience was that first was “live” but second was off my DAW  in 24/88. Also, the different was that the first I was listening Macondo (driven by Super Milq) and the second on Tannoy Reds (driven by full-range Milqs). I turned on the Super Milq, warmed it up and played the same file. Now, the “tolerable” effect went away and each single wrong note begun to scream about itself with the force of a thermonuclear exposure. A switched it back to the Reds and all wrong notes sunk into a smooth Tannoyness. Sure, they were still the wrong notes but they kind of did not bother me… Interesting observations… I wonder what Macondo does that wrong pitches so much stick out the whole sound? Both speakers are driven with the same amps. So, what would it be? The drivers? The horns topology? The crossovers? Go figure..

I kind of never paid too much attention to it a few years back but lately more and more it become to fascinate me. I am taking about the Macondo/Melquiades tandem’s ability to demonstrate distinction between pitches at alarming high level.  Sure the extreme of discrimination between the notes was always one of the main characteristic of playback. We select loudspeaker drivers, crossover topologies, stages operation conditions, cables and many other things based upon it. However, we still do not actively mitigate pitch discrimination we just navigate it but have no direct ability to impact.

The pitch discrimination was an objective during the Macondo/Melquiades but I more managed not the actions but rather the favoriteable predispositions.  So, I have no idea what I did right,  what was more or less important but the result with Macondo/Melquiades is from the perspective of pitch discrimination is very much further away than anything I heard from playback. 

Macondo/Melquiades is very bitchy in term of pitch and I have no idea way but it become worth and worth.

I have pretty much 4 playbacks that I listen regularly. One is in my car – the stock playback – complete garbage.  One is at my work – a CD player and headphone –high quality both.  Then the MiniMe and the Macondo.  I very seldom listen the playbacks of other people but I very rarely find it interesting and I do not it lately as much as I use to do it in past. The Car, the Work and the Mini from the perspective pitch discrimination are all the same – they mask out everything. The Macondo is very different story – it highlights the pitch differences and if anything is tonally off the wall then it screams like wounded in ass animal. All those minute offset pitches of brass in Mahler, or those pre-dialed in strings or those flattening sounds of bad copper … all of it VERY much highlighted with Macondo. You say that some pianist can play that the wrong notes are not “visible” – try it on Macondo! The wrong notes with Macondo sound like not less then somebody’s cold hands on your testacies!

It is really interesting where this effect come from and why other playbacks do not do it.

Romy the Cat wrote:

Andy, I do not know how accurate what you say. I do not think in the terms bandwidth reduction and intermediation distortions but if what you propose is accurate (and I do not see why it would not be so) then why is it not a common practice and understanding of anyone? The Cat