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In the Thread: It’s mad, mad, mad... electricity.
Post Subject: One of the reasons why I do not write reviews…Posted by Romy the Cat on: 1/17/2010
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 drdna wrote:
I can tell you already it will work. I have experimented extensively with adding lengths of metal to cables. It works well, but you can do a lot more by fine-tuning the amount of metal and in fact adjusting it slightly from left to right to balance the two sides.

To get a very rough idea, I bet you have some lead solder lying around. It's very cheap. Cut off a coil of this and connect it to one of your speaker spade connections. Now hear the difference.

 Romy the Cat wrote:
It is possible that they do some impact to sound, why not?  …. To find a reviewer-moron who has equipment with starving grounds and to confirm that “with Tripoint it sounds better” is not too convincing for me. 

Adrian I can tell you that it is very much unknown if it work. Well, we need to defend what is “it” and what would be the definition of “work”. In my response you missed a very critical element - the notion of “starving grounds” and this is the key to what shall not be overlooked in the recognition if “it will work”. If you tried something and it work then it does not mean that it “work” universally. To dig it a next level is a bit tricky and never done by audio-reviewers, so we are accustomed to fast and superficial results. Let me to explain.

I also experimented extensively with the very same subject. It was not my idea but a friend of my who discovered it and built us a theory of the local election pools. He went further and come up with different methods to supply different types of elections by different means – I will not describe all details but it was extensive. What it was dumped in me I rendered many of his recommendations - absolutely nothing worked for me. They he told me the pattern – the effectiveness of those mans is in direct relation with the ways how grounds are implemented in a given system and particularly the amplification.

If you try all those methods of creation of local pools with Japanese mass-market stereo receivers that have suffocated PS, no good thin grounds, overly complex signal paths and printed circuit boards then adding local “electron pools” to cables, closer to the load will “work”. The reason is because the that equipment is ground starved to begin with.

Now, look how the “electron pools” are implemented in Melquiades.

http://www.goodsoundclub.com/PDF/Melquiades_SET.pdf

The last capacitor of PS  located (point “M” on circuit) is located in physical proximity, in fact it is physically welded into the main negative bus. The main negative bus is 3 twisted pure cooper wires of 8ga – it is thick and on place it has some parts of car-audio cooper grounding cable (it is a finder-thick). Pay attention that all 3 power supplies dumped to the very same negative buss. Then, the Melquiades tubes have grounded cathodes. That was a very essential and absolutely deliberate part of the design – electrons come to tube from power supplies via cathodes. If you look at the Milq pictures then you will see VERY thick wire coming to the cathodes. In fact do you know how the negative bus terminal is mounted in the amp – it held by the cathode pins of the tube sockets.  So, in the amp everything is done in order to not impede the electrons flow to the tubes and give to the cathode enough copper mass. The result is self-evident – the amp dos not need any ground help. 

I can use my own 15 feet burden in backward copper pool or I might use not ground of any kind – to the sound of the amp it will have absolutely no difference. I can add different metals to speaker’s thermals, I did it extensively - it has absolutely zero effect in my system. You can add a railway track to my speakers – not effect of any kind. The point is that adding the metals and paling with “electrons pools” makes sense only if the amp has initial issuers with “electrons starvation”. I do not know what power amp you use and how negative bus is made in there in relation to cathodes but from what you report it looks like it has some room for improvement.

Think about it as if an amp is a turntable. You can make a TT with million adjustments and each of the adjustment would do something to sound. Alternately you can make a TT that has a default right sound and no ways to change it. I bet the bus-loaded amps would react to cables much different than if the need the help of external “elections pools”…

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