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Stereo Redux
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Posted by Paul S in
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Posted: 11-28-2025
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My friend Mark dropped by on short notice on Wednesday, the day before Thanksgiving. He had told me via text a week earlier that he had finally heard Bruckner’s 4th Symphony (live, in Seattle), and I was glad to hear he was taken with it. So - of course - I thought I would share a special performance of this work with him via CD, a live recording of Bruckner 4th, Wand/BPO, 1998. As I’ve mentioned earlier in this thread, I have been ...
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My friend Mark dropped by on short notice on Wednesday, the day before Thanksgiving. He had told me via text a week earlier that he had finally heard Bruckner’s 4th Symphony (live, in Seattle), and I was glad to hear he was taken with it. So - of course - I thought I would share a special performance of this work with him via CD, a live recording of Bruckner 4th, Wand/BPO, 1998. As I’ve mentioned earlier in this thread, I have been carefully moving The Loudspeakers around again after moving 2 large disconnected speakers away from The Loudspeakers, to give them more space, and I will say now I have known for a while that I’m closing in on something good. It was easy to hear the improvements in the sound of the symphony as my system continued to warm up. After an hour of listening, I was not only happy with the sound but I was/am very excited that the sound field fully detached from the speakers and the front wall disappeared, and it flooded the room as this happened, out to and all around my listening spot, including full-range reverberation and ambience to flesh out a very well-articulated symphony. Obviously, I am not getting “sounds from behind me” from stereo, but I was/am overjoyed that my longtime idea of “More Stereo” has been realized. Again, it is not just a matter of power. Density is also very important here. In this case, the powerful system gets out of its own way to deliver very “Natural Sound” that does Musical Justice to instruments and voices of all kinds, including small and large FR ensembles, along with great FR ambiance (when it’s in the recording). I still get residual sounds and effects from the recording, itself, but it is not prominent, and I’ve long since learned to live with it. Meanwhile, the current speaker locations are marked, not to lose the sound I have now as I continue to (cautiously) explore what can be wrung from stereo.
Paul S
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Upward Mobility
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Posted by Paul S in
the Horn-Loaded Speakers forum.
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Posted: 11-14-2025
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Well, prices for buzzed-about earbuds seem pretty silly to me, but to each his own, I guess. And if car audio has fallen off it's earlier peak pace, yet some people are yet spending more than ever for more of whatever it is they are hearing (or seeing...). Years and years ago my son's vehicle was stolen, and his fancy-brand car audio was missing when the vehicle was retrieved, a few days after the theft. I took him out after that and finally ...
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Well, prices for buzzed-about earbuds seem pretty silly to me, but to each his own, I guess. And if car audio has fallen off it's earlier peak pace, yet some people are yet spending more than ever for more of whatever it is they are hearing (or seeing...). Years and years ago my son's vehicle was stolen, and his fancy-brand car audio was missing when the vehicle was retrieved, a few days after the theft. I took him out after that and finally convinced him to pick off-brand components by ear. He wound up laughing, because he much preferred that sound, and he could leave the windows down and no one wanted it.
Paul S
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Mobile device
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Posted by steverino in
the Horn-Loaded Speakers forum.
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Posted: 11-13-2025
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I have only fuzzy notions about what sort of audio (if any) gets others going these days.
Paul,
Since almost everything these days is being mixed and mastered for the mobile device, the correct answer would be better speakers in them.
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I have only fuzzy notions about what sort of audio (if any) gets others going these days.
Paul,
Since almost everything these days is being mixed and mastered for the mobile device, the correct answer would be better speakers in them.
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Can do one better
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Posted by steverino in
the Horn-Loaded Speakers forum.
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Posted: 11-13-2025
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Wojtek,
 I'll see your low res old Spendors and raise it with my beloved 8 track tape player in the car! I do have pretty decent tonally balanced rear speakers though.
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Wojtek,
I'll see your low res old Spendors and raise it with my beloved 8 track tape player in the car! I do have pretty decent tonally balanced rear speakers though.
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What The Market Will Bear in a Bear Market
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Posted by Paul S in
the Horn-Loaded Speakers forum.
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Posted: 11-13-2025
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Since I don't frequent and only rarely visit other audio sites, I have only fuzzy notions about what sort of audio (if any) gets others going these days. Meanwhile, when Romy takes a break, so does this site. If forced to guess, I'd say "most audio people" are still stuck on the notion that they can look around on the internet, find out about gear from others, buy it, and get the sound others go on about. Yawn. Ironic that even here people are ...
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Since I don't frequent and only rarely visit other audio sites, I have only fuzzy notions about what sort of audio (if any) gets others going these days. Meanwhile, when Romy takes a break, so does this site. If forced to guess, I'd say "most audio people" are still stuck on the notion that they can look around on the internet, find out about gear from others, buy it, and get the sound others go on about. Yawn. Ironic that even here people are probably waiting to find out the make of Amp X. As for "most promising commercial speakers", if there is such a thing, an optimized/personalized version of it still requires someone to guide their system to a place where it delivers what they are looking for. Someone either wants to or does not want to, can, can't, or won't optimize old Spendors to taste. Optimized horns have some advantages, but very few horns are optimized to begin with, regardless of pedigree, machining, woodwork, or the buzz a product is attended by. And for most people, none of this really matters, since exotic speakers are more luxury goods than Music, going in and in the end.
Best regards,
Paul S
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I don't have my own setup
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Posted by Wojtek in
the Horn-Loaded Speakers forum.
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Posted: 11-12-2025
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I broke down and bought  "low resolution"  old Spendors for Opera and light classical and have a ghetto blaster curb pickup boxes for everything else . This with house full of horns and drivers and Klipschorns   serving as a plant stands. Yes, Belkin Synopsis is still here and well used. My friend stopped by with his Spectral transport he was having some problems with and we listened with Belkin cable. He was shaking his head and when he was ...
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I broke down and bought "low resolution" old Spendors for Opera and light classical and have a ghetto blaster curb pickup boxes for everything else . This with house full of horns and drivers and Klipschorns serving as a plant stands. Yes, Belkin Synopsis is still here and well used. My friend stopped by with his Spectral transport he was having some problems with and we listened with Belkin cable. He was shaking his head and when he was leaving he asked if he can borrow it. He called later asking if I want to sell it  . It's funny. My hearing went down the drains and I can't make sense out of what those harpies in crowded bars are saying to me. I drive with turn light ticking and can't here the tick for sh..t but I'm still irritated by Bad Sound Club like that guy who drives the car upstream on highway cursing countless idiots on a collision course .. All the best , W
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Developing Promising Drivers
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Posted by Paul S in
the Horn-Loaded Speakers forum.
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Posted: 11-12-2025
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Wojtek, I thought the vintage and pro guys built shrines to the big JBL/Altec compression drivers? For many years I dreamed of owning 375s, but I could never afford them, and at some point I understood that crossovers and horns and ancillary equipment made or broke even these vaunted drivers. So many "pro" drivers are installed and tweaked with DSP these days, with particular applications in mind, often where "high directivity" is demanded. ...
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Wojtek, I thought the vintage and pro guys built shrines to the big JBL/Altec compression drivers? For many years I dreamed of owning 375s, but I could never afford them, and at some point I understood that crossovers and horns and ancillary equipment made or broke even these vaunted drivers. So many "pro" drivers are installed and tweaked with DSP these days, with particular applications in mind, often where "high directivity" is demanded. Perhaps some readers have found themselves sitting on-axis with a Be driver mounted on a very directive horn. Yikes! It certainly appears to me that at least part of the subject CDs/horns/mounts has to do with making them appear to be "worth the money". And it remains sadly true, it may well be that the "target market" for this sort of gear pretty well demands this sort of "product refinement". As for 2440 low-mid capabilities, most horns I hear are too small or too slow for their drivers the way those drivers are run, with predictable consequeces. I have long regarded 375/2440 as "most likely to succeed" at "lower frequencies", given proper horns and X/Os.
Hope you are still enjoying your own set-up, including Belkin S/PDIF.
Best regards,
Paul S
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They do look like an example of recently fashionable "wretched excess"
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Posted by Wojtek in
the Horn-Loaded Speakers forum.
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Posted: 11-12-2025
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with all this complicated alignment machinery.At one point Romy was positively impressed with Classic Audio Reproduction T1 speaker based on ..you guessed TAD drivers and sporting TAD TH4001 horn and I'm sure it was years later than 2001 and his experiments with TAD drivers  I never heard good demo of any CAR speakers although I heard them many times. They were too "crispy" with Tad ...
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with all this complicated alignment machinery.At one point Romy was positively impressed with Classic Audio Reproduction T1 speaker based on ..you guessed TAD drivers and sporting TAD TH4001 horn and I'm sure it was years later than 2001 and his experiments with TAD drivers I never heard good demo of any CAR speakers although I heard them many times. They were too "crispy" with Tad drivers and became too "mellow" with field coil drivers both series sporting beryllium diaphragms. I couldn't get the sound of TD4001 and I suspect that what people love about them is "liquidity" of the sound which irritates the heck of me. Also, people who like them are not into acoustic music and they want that "liquid growl " of electric guitars. I much prefer maligned JBL titanium dia with 2440 driver. What I did like about TD-4001 is a really present and robust low mid which none of the JBL drivers possess.
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Aspirational
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Posted by decoud in
the Horn-Loaded Speakers forum.
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Posted: 11-10-2025
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I look forward to it. Whether there is deliverable substance behind the (pretty) pictures is, I suppose, another question.  
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I look forward to it. Whether there is deliverable substance behind the (pretty) pictures is, I suppose, another question.
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Very interesting
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Posted by Romy the Cat in
the Horn-Loaded Speakers forum.
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Posted: 11-09-2025
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Thank you for pulling me out that they continues to produce or at least propose new models. I will look what they do nowadays and actually I would like to create a video with My review of their new production line. It might be very interesting video.
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Thank you for pulling me out that they continues to produce or at least propose new models. I will look what they do nowadays and actually I would like to create a video with My review of their new production line. It might be very interesting video.
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